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#1
HOLY shit, Rain, I have run into some of the stupidest fucking people on this planet, but you are by far one of the worst.


I whole-heartedly apologize to everyone else here that had to sit through my wasted board space talking to him, I feel awful, and if a ban is headed my way, that's fair. Also you guys are free to hate on me, that's cool too. Sorry for wasting board space.


Anyways, anything come of that video? I saw a link somewhere for what I thought was the same file but a limit had been reached on it.
#2
@Rain


Again, I didn't demand anything, obviously you're still in the 3rd grade or you might have been able to read that.


They said they did something, I said they didn't, they can back it up or they can ignore me. As it stands, they've spent all this energy telling me I'm wrong without anything behind it.


Nope, they have no obligation, so what? I'm still going to call them on it. They want to pretend they have something this big and expect people to bend over and give them props for it? No thanks.


They didn't intend it on going public, they could have been better about it. Doesn't seem like they tried very hard. Obviously they care if they had to come here and answer me several times about how great they are. If they really had a project they wouldn't give a shit.


Oh yah, the "go outside you have no life" response. It was tired when the internet first started, and it's just pathetic now. Really, is that all you have? Because it took me, oh, about 3 minutes to write my post. I'm sorry if posting on forums is a life consuming activity for you. But the rest of us around here aren't so pathetic.


You have an amazing talent to be able to decipher my entire life by reading a post I made in 3 minutes time in the day. You must be very successful in life with an amazing talent like that.


And since we're using tired and old internet cliches to make ourselves sound "tuff" I guess I'll decide that you sound about 12 from the way you post, live in your mother's basement, and have never been with a woman.


Nice try kid, but move along, probably past your bedtime.
#3
@Rain


Get a clue dude. When are you people going to learn?


It has nothing to do with demanding proof, it has nothing to do with attempting to make people do a project for other people.


It has to do with people exploiting peoples' interest in a topic for a sick joke. It has to do with being lied to. It has to do with people getting attention for themselves when they haven't earned it.


These guys are the ones who are making these wild claims. Who gives a sh*t if they said it on their so-called "private" site. It doesn't matter. They made the claims, the claims are out, and now they are going to get attacked for it.


It doesn't matter who you are or what you're doing, people who lie and bullsh*t other people about something are going to get attention for it.


That's what you have to get into your heads about this. People don't like being lied to. And people don't like liars. You lie about something as big as a BNET 2.0 emulator, people are going to come after you. It's not a big concept, I hope you can handle it.


The internet is an amazing place, with amazing tools, these guys could have been a lot more low key if they'd wanted. Now their story is out, and so far they have dodged one thing after another. So far they seem like liars, and no, they don't owe me anything, it's true. But they don't have to ANSWER me either if they don't want. Obviously they enjoy spending the time to keep attacking everyone that attacks them, if they really had a project going they wouldn't give a sh*t.


Obviously they care, they had to waste all this time posting about it.


It has nothing to do with proof, it has to do with lying, and being liars. You do that, people are coming down on you, that's what this is.


Getting lied to is like being under attack. The SC2 crowd around these parts feels under attack for these guys, and now some of us are speaking up. They _sound_ like adults so I think it's obvious that that is the only thing that could have happened here. StarCraft is one of the largest franchises in computer gaming history. Now we have a private beta here for one of the most anticipated sequels of all time.


THIS gets a lot of people excited. Now you have this random crew out from left field claiming they have what everyone is so desperate to get. If that turns out to be a lie, then we've all been PLAYED. No one likes to be PLAYED.


THAT'S what this is about. I'm feeling PLAYED by these guys, and they refuse to back their shit up. No, they don't HAVE to, whatever, but I'm going to speak up against them. I'm not DEMANDING they do, I'm just speaking my part to the people here, simple as that.


You guys keep saying "if it's fake, no big deal!" WRONG. It is a big deal. I don't like people toying and being jackasses to people. We didn't do anything to them, why tease a large group of people like that and expect everyone to just TRUST them.


</rant>
#4
Gameplay video is taking so long because they are trying to figure out how they can fake it the best.  :D
#5
Quote from: Daemonix on March 12, 2010, 02:23:39 PM
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Wild claim -> Audience -> Wild claims of proof for original wild claims -> More audience -> Delays for proof for wild claims -> More audience -> More wild claims and more delays -> Audience getting doubtful, put pressure on wild claims -> Team that made wild claims gets upset people are doubting them -> More audience -> Team disappears blaming people putting pressure, insulting them, and calling them fakers -> Team was fake!


So far, "code gen" has followed the formula to the letter. Just sayin'.


Site has been active for 14 days. Nobody was giving any claims. What you saw on site was progress report for other team members + something for public. It was supposed to be "secret" until some release just because of situations like this. But site got leaked somehow.

Go look the site now. Check the Stats since the foundation. Look @ TOTAL VISITORS.

Wild Claims my ass. Nobody even knew anything about them till today. Who made any claims except they among themselves?


I would love nothing more than to shut up, but I don't want to leave these forums with any bitterness between me and anyone here. I just get uncomfortable with that... But I find it hard not to speak up, you know?


The "wild claims" are all the amazing progress the site has been declaring. I could go set up a site right now, and do the same thing.


For every legitimate team that ever works on anything over the internet, that supposedly has something of extreme value for a large group of people, there are at least 100 fakes.


So you're going to tell me, that whoever manages that site spent all that time dissecting a screenshot of IDA, and a screenshot of site traffic, and post NOTHING relating to your project, when SUPPOSEDLY there is a video that's ALMOST done?


How much easier would it have been to post ANYTHING related to SC2? This latest maneuver is more dodging, something so typical of all fakers everywhere.


I really hate how I sound, so I swear this is the absolute last time I bother you at all.


For the sake of conclusion, we'll just say I believe you, and thank your team for me for all the work they've done so far. Take a few ibuprofen for the headache I've caused you and maybe a nap, apologies and good luck.


/done
#6
Quote from: Daemonix on March 12, 2010, 01:16:48 PM
Nah, nobody is mad. They don't care what others say but they like sarcasm. Site will be up again soon.

And why are you asking for proof? They were working in secret for past 15-16 days and now site leaked and all hell broke loose. Where is Teknogods proof? LazyTown proof? ANY PROOF?

My last post.


Arrg, I said I would shut up, but I feel compelled to make one last response.


We are not ASKING for proof, that site declared they had proof prepared, and then it was not delivered.


Also, the other teams have been opening discussing their code and tactics since day 1, some of them may have moved into more private teams, but originally it was all open to everyone.


Also, the other teams have already released the sandbox loader, and all that you see today.


"code gen" was like, "Hey, we're kicking ass! We have a video! Almost! No really, almost! Video soon!"


People just expect people to follow through with their claims.


TRADITIONAL internet fakery ALWAYS follows the same flow:


Wild claim -> Audience -> Wild claims of proof for original wild claims -> More audience -> Delays for proof for wild claims -> More audience -> More wild claims and more delays -> Audience getting doubtful, put pressure on wild claims -> Team that made wild claims gets upset people are doubting them -> More audience -> Team disappears blaming people putting pressure, insulting them, and calling them fakers -> Team was fake!


So far, "code gen" has followed the formula to the letter. Just sayin'.
#7
Quote from: Daemonix on March 12, 2010, 01:14:59 PM
Nah, nobody is mad. They don't care what others say but they like sarcasm like every other intelligent person. Site will be up again soon.


Haha, alright man, I will stop hounding you guys.. whatever happens will happen. If real, good luck. :)
#8
lol either they got mad that people doubted them and they are faking being fake, or they really are fake.


Shame... disappointed again? :( Heheh...


QuoteWE ARE NOT LEGIT!
You will get Video though.
And no, We were not h4x3d.



Hopefully they are just upset that they attracted too much attention, and are doing a fake disappearance.. ;)
#9
Quote from: Daemonix on March 12, 2010, 12:10:47 PM
Quote from: Gamewiz on March 12, 2010, 12:02:13 PM
Well thanks for the update (if it's legit). Don't mind my skepticism, but it's the internet, so it's hard to trust things. ;)


However, under the pretense that this is legit, are they going to be sharing to the public once completed? Because according to that site, it sure seems like they want to keep everything fairly private.

I know it is hard to trust. But they have been operating in "secret" for 15 days now. Someone found the link and visitors got higher (read my post above again, I edited it).

Of course it will be shared. They are older people (some younger) and they don't play games :)

As I said, I gathered them to make us Multiplayer. One way or another. If I wasn't asked they would never touch this.


You have to admit it is a little odd though...


Back in UPDATE 6 you had this to say...
Quoteskid: Packets are done. Every possible packet regarding SC2 is captured, analysed and uploaded to respective folders on the FTP. I will see if the new patch brought somethng else and do that asap.

Then, in all the following updates you keep saying how you need to capture more packets. Well, which one is it? :\
Then, you've already made TWO claims of a video, but nothing yet. You have to admit, it's just a little shady. Why do teams go out of their way to sound like every other false claim out there?

Here's hoping though, I'm going to go ahead and let myself get excited and trust these guys.  :o