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Title: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: masky007 on March 19, 2010, 03:14:09 AM
first of al, i am really sorry if this kind of post isnt for this forum.. but i didn't find this somehow violating the forum rules..  and if this was posted somewhere else as well (which i couldn't find) please remove it, and sorry for the problems i made for you.
I PRETTY MUCH BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE WOULD LOVE STARCRAFT 2 TO HAVE "LAN"
so some people did made a pettition.. this sometimes helps!

here is the link:http://www.petitiononline.com/LANSC2/petition.html
beg blizz to make it! ^^
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: zeratus on March 19, 2010, 03:10:45 PM
Do you really think blizzard will make LAN support so people ,who not buy his products to play?
LAN is 99% useless on 2010-everyone got internet.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: NanoEntity on March 19, 2010, 08:29:03 PM
There will be no lan, lol blizzard is moving into battle.net game support.

They have the millions of dollars to make the service work :)
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: samamanjaro on March 20, 2010, 10:06:46 PM
It's not going to happen, and Korea wont  be happy.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: r0fl on March 20, 2010, 10:47:41 PM
First Post! Ok, so Blizzard does have LAN for Starcraft 2, only not the traditional style of LAN that we are so used to. As we all know LAN is achieved through the Battle.net system, you can still get those low latency LAN pings, only you need an internet connection. I personally support this movement, as it helps prevent piracy of one of the greatest games to hit the shelves in 2010. If you did not need to log into the battle.net system to use the LAN then people would just virtual LAN to other computers and would pirate the game anyway. I like it how it is now :)
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: Frosty3k on March 20, 2010, 10:51:42 PM
QuoteFirst Post! Ok, so Blizzard does have LAN for Starcraft 2, only not the  traditional style of LAN that we are so used to. As we all know LAN is  achieved through the Battle.net system, you can still get those low  latency LAN pings, only you need an internet connection. I personally  support this movement, as it helps prevent piracy of one of the  greatest games to hit the shelves in 2010

I've been hoping for that exact feature, but would you happen to have an official link for verification?
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: Manichean on March 21, 2010, 12:05:00 AM
Im really on the fence with this one. there are two sides to this argument from my perspective, given the fact that i live in a country where the internet is slow and overpriced. Not to say that the country(South Africa) is not getting there or moving forward.

On the one side of the coin I see no reason for blizz to implement lan as i have a 512k permanent internet connection. As a 29 yr old man with passion for gaming and development I can afford the price per month.

That being said, i remember when i was in matric(grade 12). One of my friends suggested i get starcraft as it was an awesome game. I remember going to his house later that afternoon with my copy of the game and my PC. We stayed up all night gaming on LAN, ended up bunking school the next day to recover.

My point is poeple in less developed countries, younger kids (like my nephews) and kids who's parents cannot affrod broadband will loose out with no LAN capability. Its also good to note that this is the perfect age to capture them with awesome game  titles which blizz has always released.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: Blindkilla on March 21, 2010, 11:39:13 AM
Quote from: r0fl on March 20, 2010, 10:47:41 PM
First Post! Ok, so Blizzard does have LAN for Starcraft 2, only not the traditional style of LAN that we are so used to. As we all know LAN is achieved through the Battle.net system, you can still get those low latency LAN pings, only you need an internet connection. I personally support this movement, as it helps prevent piracy of one of the greatest games to hit the shelves in 2010. If you did not need to log into the battle.net system to use the LAN then people would just virtual LAN to other computers and would pirate the game anyway. I like it how it is now :)

BNET lan is useless and completely redundant.  People used lan before as a means to avoid playing over the internet (either don't have a connection or it is too slow).  Now you're required to have an internet connection. 
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: r0fl on March 22, 2010, 05:34:49 AM
QuoteBNET lan is useless and completely redundant.  People used lan before as a means to avoid playing over the internet (either don't have a connection or it is too slow).  Now you're required to have an internet connection.

We can't 100% comment on how useless and redundant it is until we see it (Starcraft II) in action. This is only a guess, but If i am right, then Blizzard will only need you to be logged into Battle.net to gain access to the LAN option. Seems logical as it would be the only way to achieve those LAN pings. Setting up the lan could be a pain for a mass event as all the computers would need to be connected to the internet, but aside from that, i really don't see many problems. Again though, we will have wait and see before making proper comments about the matter.

QuoteI've been hoping for that exact feature, but would you happen to have an official link for verification?

Ah mate, I wish i could remember where i read it from, the source was credible i remember that, but alas what I have wrote is not since i cannot provide a source. If i stumble across it i will pm you the source mate :)

r0fl.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: Rain[sun] on March 22, 2010, 05:41:35 AM
There's a few ways to look at it but at the end of the day it comes down to what blizzard wants to do.
Not to mention, downloading nearly any of the things available for SC2 on the site voids your opinion to blizzard.
Regardless of who is going to buy it anyway, blizzard can't possibly monitor every computer that has this game installed so theyre doing their best to make it pirate-free. They won't succeed but that doesnt mean its pointless to try.

Im biased cause I live in a place where I need internet for school/work/social life, its cheap and fast. I also think however that people in my situation will be the main income for Blizz, so they may or may not care
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: r0fl on March 22, 2010, 05:58:32 AM
Quote from: Rain[sun] on March 22, 2010, 05:41:35 AMRegardless of who is going to buy it anyway, blizzard can't possibly monitor every computer that has this game installed so theyre doing their best to make it pirate-free. They won't succeed but that doesnt mean its pointless to try.

I like the point you have made here! To many people complain and bash the anti-piracy attempts of developers and I do not agree with their comments. Although no doubt crackers will be able to get traditional LAN going for Starcraft II, the concept behind what Blizzard have done here is a very close step toward complete anti-piracy, for multiplayer anyway.

r0fl.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: crazian on March 23, 2010, 02:33:53 AM
As long as you can still play single player mode offline, I wouldn't complain too much.
*cough*
unlike Assassin's Creed 2
*cough*
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: ItzMattu on March 23, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
For those of you saying "no one cares about LAN" or that "LAN is available you just have to sign on to B.net" please see my post (http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/general-discussion/blizzard-lied-to-us/msg13257/#msg13257) regarding this issue.

The effects of not including true LAN play are very much a hindrance to an important subculture of the gaming community, whether or not you'd like to believe so.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: Rain[sun] on March 25, 2010, 07:38:51 PM
How so? I mean, the majority of LAN parties I've heard of used LAN so they could use the same copy of the game and not have to all buy it. Something Blizzard doesnt want, and rightfully so. I know there are cases where people do it cause they can't connect to the internet but, blocking LAN for a smaller group vs blocking piracy by a high degree... Hm.... wonder which a big name company will go for?

Im biased because LAN parties were never my deal. But my point stands.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: War_Machine on March 25, 2010, 10:23:38 PM
WAAAAY to much reading dude but Blizzard will not do it, they dont give a shit what we want
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: Rain[sun] on March 25, 2010, 10:32:54 PM
Didn't read most of it since I know the subject already, but Blizz is, believe it or not, a combined group of people thinking. I do believe they are smarter than you or me, and I do believe they haven't told us a 1/4 of what they are doing or the reasoning behind it. They know the subject of piracy as well as anyone, and I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they know what features they implemented in the original game.

That being said, there is a reason(whatever it might be) that they chose not to provide LAN, and as I've stated many times I don't personally care, due to the fact that it doesn't change my experience in the slightest.
Korean league was LAN, and seeing as how they are Starcraft's biggest market I think its naive too assume Blizzard forgot about them. 

Not to mention im not "forgetting" anything, I clearly stated the ones I heard of. Meaning, knowing people who went or organized. And my point was, again, based off the fact that a large group of gamers (nearly all who weren't in Korea and played SC with friends) used 3rd party programs to play with LAN latencys. And, low and behold, they were identical to regular LAN games. I was merely pointing out it was possible over SC, and I don't doubt its possibilities over SCII.

Jus sayin
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: Rain[sun] on March 25, 2010, 10:52:56 PM
I disagree that a point changes based on the level of caring on my part, but that's your call. I bring points up because people don't always understand both sides or even their entire view, and sometimes people can use the insight.
Not sure what you mean by "trollish", but I'm giving my view on the subject. Your welcome to take it any way you please.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: totocows on March 28, 2010, 02:29:04 AM
I have never really played starcraft or anything vea lan. But, some of my freinds have decide to buy the new game when it comes out. It kind of sucks now that they dont have lan play for the new one becouse it would make things alot easier to play with each other if we are with each other but... I dont really think a online petition is going to solve the issue. Not to be downing on starting it though.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: Bliss on March 28, 2010, 05:39:56 PM
No petition is going to change the fact that they are not going to include LAN. No argument will change that fact. Stop fighting for it. You think that just because Blizzard doesn't include LAN, the Korean gamers are not going to play the game? Obviously Blizzard hasn't forgotten about Korea, after all, it's their biggest supporters. And they made the decision still, to cut out LAN. They have gone through this within their company hundreds of times, and decided it's in their best interest to cut out LAN.

Anyways, how is LAN play exactly easier to play than regular? Regular, you just connect to the Internet and go. LAN play you need to bring X amount of computers and connect them all together. Really easy.
Title: Re: PETITION - MAKE BLIZZARD TO IMPLEMENT LAN IN SC2
Post by: starcrafter64 on March 29, 2010, 08:45:09 AM
Petition failed. Sorry guys.

http://starcraft.incgamers.com/blog/comments/no-starcraft-ii-lan-support-official/ (http://starcraft.incgamers.com/blog/comments/no-starcraft-ii-lan-support-official/)