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Title: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: DragonBlade on March 23, 2010, 02:12:55 AM
I found a   picture on google: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/3557742325_2fc8286b26_o.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/3557742325_2fc8286b26_o.jpg)

I found a video on YouTube and filmed by   one at Blizzcon when playing Starcraft 2, and appear as Local ...
but I lost the link: ( I would start looking for, and I hope to find him
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: twan on March 23, 2010, 02:21:22 AM
I'm pretty sure you can host a Local game as long as you are connected to Battle.net. (correct me if im wrong but it seems like it would be just lame if there was no LAN whatsoever)
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: Unholyfox on March 23, 2010, 03:38:10 PM
soo.. does this mean there will be lan? :)
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: RaTcHeT302 on March 23, 2010, 03:56:46 PM
Are you sure that wasn't a Alpha - Early (something like that) stage of SC2?
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: DragonBlade on March 23, 2010, 04:38:51 PM
i am not sure but i saw a video on youtube(i said that in first post) at blizzcon and and all unit was like now but only some research was in + like the ability of Immortal... was research for that(immortals don't have the ability from start, require that research)
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: Draugur on March 23, 2010, 04:55:15 PM
Quote from: Unholyfox on March 23, 2010, 03:38:10 PM
soo.. does this mean there will be lan? :)

Blizzard said they were not going to add lan support.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: Rain[sun] on March 23, 2010, 04:55:19 PM
If you can hook up to the internet, you can play LAN. Redundant to some but I usually only play SC with friends anyway, so if we can get LAN latency while living a thousand miles away, I'm down!

Blizzard said no LAN support but that doesn't mean no LAN latency, then again who knows what the picture shows. Could be entirely photoshopped, could be an early build
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: StalKer on March 23, 2010, 04:58:02 PM
As far as I know you can play LAN if you have an internet connection as Rain just said.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: tattered on March 23, 2010, 05:08:30 PM
I remember hearing that LAN play would be available but would first require authentication with Battle.net. (Play on local network but Blizzard still gets to check if you have a valid account) I can't really remember where I read this, but I thought it was on this forum? Oh well..


Of course it's pretty naive to think it will remain like this, if certain people are motivated to circumvent their measures.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: starcrafter64 on March 23, 2010, 05:46:51 PM
This has already been covered. Sigh.

All LAN play has been disabled, to reduce piracy. Downloading the game, cracking it, and playing it via LAN.

All multiplayer games of SC2 will have to authenticate and be ran through Battle.net. This is clearly WAN networking.

Blizzard has stated the release will not support LAN, and they have no plans to implement LAN to a later time.

The game will have an offline profile for people who aren't able to be online, but it must be authenticated to battle.net the first time.

The photo is most likely an alpha screenshot, when internal testing was going on before battle.net 2.0 was implemented.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: ItzMattu on March 23, 2010, 09:36:22 PM
I'm not sure you guys have the same definition of LAN as I do. A lot of the younger gamers are so used to the Internet, they don't realize that having the Internet (or a good enough connection) is actually a realistic situation that many event organizers face for LAN parties.

So just to clarify, having to connect to Battle.net to play over a local connection is not a LAN game. It is local play behind a WAN authentication wall. :P

This is also very annoying DRM because people traveling, experiencing ISP issues, or a number of other issues are effectively blocked from playing a game they handed over cash for.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: starcrafter64 on March 23, 2010, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: ItzMattu on March 23, 2010, 09:36:22 PM


This is also very annoying DRM because people traveling, experiencing ISP issues, or a number of other issues are effectively blocked from playing a game they handed over cash for.

False. Look at the post above you. You authenticate once, and then the local account is activated, allowing you to play offline and not need battle.net for single player.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: ItzMattu on March 23, 2010, 10:59:29 PM
Quote from: starcrafter64 on March 23, 2010, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: ItzMattu on March 23, 2010, 09:36:22 PM


This is also very annoying DRM because people traveling, experiencing ISP issues, or a number of other issues are effectively blocked from playing a game they handed over cash for.

False. Look at the post above you. You authenticate once, and then the local account is activated, allowing you to play offline and not need battle.net for single player.

Do you have a source for this information? I'm interested in reading more about this. I hadn't heard of this up until right now.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: Rain[sun] on March 24, 2010, 09:34:27 PM
Google it, but there are multiple sources citing the same Blizzard quote, so I'm inclined to think its fact.
I lost the link to it but, you have to authenticate once originally and then something about potentially periodically for updates or whatever else they decide.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: Dracogon on March 24, 2010, 09:39:23 PM
Its a system where you log on to ur bnet account then connect with others, this way, blizz thinks pirated version will be stopped. Oh yeah, local connections are possible, it's just very diffrent
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: starcrafter64 on March 24, 2010, 11:01:31 PM
Quote from: Dracogon on March 24, 2010, 09:39:23 PM
Its a system where you log on to ur bnet account then connect with others, this way, blizz thinks pirated version will be stopped. Oh yeah, local connections are possible, it's just very diffrent

It's not a local connection. Even if you have 2 computers in the same room, you both have to connect to Bnet 2.0. This of course, does not have the low latency benefit of a direct, local connection. Its WIDE AREA NETWORK, not Local Area Network (WAN vs LAN). WAN uses your internet provider to make a connection, LAN does not.
Title: Re: Blizzard lied to us?
Post by: Rain[sun] on March 25, 2010, 01:20:41 AM
All I know is Chaos used to give us ridiculously low latency playing games on SC, wayyyy better than playing in a normal lobby. Fuck if i know the terminology, but whatever that was, im sure sc2 will have before long