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"Gameplay Video is ready. We played a 15 minute game Zerg vs Terran and when you see it, you will understand why "partial" release would be a disaster. So be patient and it will come. Good Night."
Video link(download):
http://www.mediafire.com/?zozmigfxzur (http://www.mediafire.com/?zozmigfxzur)
youtube link:
Fucking YouTube and their 10min limit, sorry guys :(
I'll Try to upload to megavideo
Mirror
http://rapidshare.com/files/376334439/SC2Gameplay.rar
when link for download?
youtube yet?
waiting on the youtube link :whistle:
hmmmm where exactly is the LAN in this?
we just see a game started from this "emu launcher" and nothing more!
were are the other players? where are the chats from other players so that we know you are playing with a human??
forgive me i am not saying this is a fake, but i just wondering where is the actuall proof of lan in this video? :whistle:
for me proof will be a client and a server side that will talk to each other and actually the server emulator will allo starcraft to run without even a launcher! it will start from a launcer but not set races maps etc, and straigt get you to thegame creation screen ingame!
thats at least my team mate are doing in StarCrack
Quote from: Vernam7 on April 16, 2010, 05:07:43 AM
hmmmm where exactly is the LAN in this?
we just see a game started from this "emu launcher" and nothing more!
were are the other players? where are the chats from other players so that we know you are playing with a human??
forgive me i am not saying this is a fake, but i just wondering where is the actuall proof of lan in this video? :whistle:
for me proof will be a client and a server side that will talk to each other and actually the server emulator will allo starcraft to run without even a launcher! it will start from a launcer but not set races maps etc, and straigt get you to thegame creation screen ingame!
thats at least my team mate are doing in StarCrack
It's fake. Don't bother :D
To be able to play 15 min in a very unstable/lagging/bugged with my friend, would be a dream come true. "disaster" ? 5 minutes of playing would make me happy like hell!
Quote from: Shawn91210 on April 16, 2010, 05:32:12 AM
Quote from: Vernam7 on April 16, 2010, 05:07:43 AM
hmmmm where exactly is the LAN in this?
we just see a game started from this "emu launcher" and nothing more!
were are the other players? where are the chats from other players so that we know you are playing with a human??
forgive me i am not saying this is a fake, but i just wondering where is the actuall proof of lan in this video? :whistle:
for me proof will be a client and a server side that will talk to each other and actually the server emulator will allo starcraft to run without even a launcher! it will start from a launcer but not set races maps etc, and straigt get you to thegame creation screen ingame!
thats at least my team mate are doing in StarCrack
It's fake. Don't bother :D
Are u calling the Code Gen Team's Fake?..
His First Video Relase Shows The Other part of the program. Sending Packets. Ect. This Video as he promised in the 2nd video he would show gameplay....
If you go to there site when its up. you can see how far down the Tech Tree they are. They dont have all units/ Upgrades. and they prob dont have chat working.
Between the First and 2nd video they relased. i would say that these people are not fake. if they were. they would not still be working on it and when there site went down the first time they would of not come back if all they wanted were keys...
I don't think this video is a fake. Here is why:
first: the terran, although the player had the skill level of a normal ai, sent all his scvs working on his expo to attack to defend against the zerg's attack. A normal computer wouldn't do that.
second: there were way too many game freezes than there is on normal battle net. It could be that they are just playing on really crappy internet connections but who really has internet connects that is that bad?
Anyways, if this is true, the StarCrack team managed to get passed the authentication part of bnet and code-gen managed to get the game play part of it working. So they can combine it and we would have a real battle.net emulator! ^_^
Quote from: SIL3NT-DE4TH on April 16, 2010, 07:04:12 AM
Are u calling the Code Gen Team's Fake?..
His First Video Relase Shows The Other part of the program. Sending Packets. Ect. This Video as he promised in the 2nd video he would show gameplay....
If you go to there site when its up. you can see how far down the Tech Tree they are. They dont have all units/ Upgrades. and they prob dont have chat working.
Between the First and 2nd video they relased. i would say that these people are not fake. if they were. they would not still be working on it and when there site went down the first time they would of not come back if all they wanted were keys...
Are you serious man? lol. A retarded monkey could spot this as a fake.
Why didn't the players chat with each other?!!?
Why did he have to click something off screen after clicking "launch" on the supposed emulator?
Why not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
If this is what you consider proof, you would probably believe ANYTHING.
Quote from: Organized_Chaos on April 16, 2010, 08:35:27 AM
Quote from: SIL3NT-DE4TH on April 16, 2010, 07:04:12 AM
Are u calling the Code Gen Team's Fake?..
His First Video Relase Shows The Other part of the program. Sending Packets. Ect. This Video as he promised in the 2nd video he would show gameplay....
If you go to there site when its up. you can see how far down the Tech Tree they are. They dont have all units/ Upgrades. and they prob dont have chat working.
Between the First and 2nd video they relased. i would say that these people are not fake. if they were. they would not still be working on it and when there site went down the first time they would of not come back if all they wanted were keys...
Are you serious man? lol. A retarded monkey could spot this as a fake.
Why didn't the players chat with each other?!!?
Why did he have to click something off screen after clicking "launch" on the supposed emulator?
Why not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
If this is what you consider proof, you would probably believe ANYTHING.
To tell u the truth i dont really care because im in the beta. i just come here to check out its progress. i downloaded the video from there site when it was up. and all i did was scan threw it..
I did wonder why he wouldn't play some one with more skill. the person he played seem liked he was playing a game of starcraft2 for the first time. and might of played sc1
Ill tell u now for sure that if it was an AI it was one he maid. cause its not 1 i seen be4. and it deff not the one in the beta. they tech and produce units way faster. and they do scout.
And i dont see that if the code gen team was fake why wouldn't they just disappear after the site went down the first or 2nd time.
Actually, after watching it again, it seems like maybe it WAS a game between two humans, only it was on the REAL Bnet. They likely conned a beta key out of some poor unwitting people, and with those accounts they're playing each other on bnet. The friend icon on the bottom right of the UI suggests it's likely on Bnet.
Either way, there are many ways to prove it's a real emu...and I saw nothing to prove it. The biggest red flag remains to be the fact that he had to move the cursor off screen after clicking "Launch Starcraft II". Clicking that button on the supposed emu clearly did nothing.
where is this vid?
in the first couple of posts there are multiple links, do you read?
But honestly why does no one mention the fact that he named his friend? or that his friend doesnt disconnect at the end of the game. Not to mention that this team also said that releasing a partial would be a dumb thing to do, yet they play on it themselves? if its that far along let the people play it to find out for themselves. imo this looks like bs, its not a battle.net emulator if all it does is connect 2 people in 1 game, and it doesnt even look like that other player is real, when would you even put in the name of some other person's account?
Quote from: Organized_Chaos link=topic=1677.msg16074#msg16074 date=1271427107
Actually, after watching it again, it seems like maybe it WAS a game between two humans, only it was on the REAL Bnet. They likely conned a beta key out of some poor unwitting people, and with those accounts they're playing each other on bnet. The friend icon on the bottom right of the UI suggests it's likely on Bnet.
Either way, there are many ways to prove it's a real emu...and I saw nothing to prove it. The biggest red flag remains to be the fact that he had to move the cursor off screen after clicking "Launch Starcraft II". Clicking that button on the supposed emu clearly did nothing.
If it's fake why would they bother doing this video, why don't just they vanish? They already have the keys, and it's not like they're asking for more.
But more important, who the f*** cares? When the time comes will see if it's fake or not, until then I couldn't care less.
Another intriguing thing is that when he pushes the launch button, he's not releasing the click and, instead, he is dragging the mouse down and it can be saw that the button could be released because of moving off it. That manoeuvre on buttons, in general, is canceling the command (if that button has one).
This match is HvH, that is indubitable, because of lags ("waiting for player") but, like Organize_Chaos said, why that mouse move on the upper left after he launched the game?...
And, by the way, they theoretically played on a local network, that lags was not because of a "crappy internet connection" and was because of that Lan application which is not finished yet.
But, if in reality it was a bnet record, how that lag could be faked? Simple: you can just make high traffic, especially on upload with max speed and you can play on a "crappy internet connection".
I don't want to say is fake because there is no concretely argument but why they always make such horrible videos?
If you really want to help those with no keys to play before blizz will release the game, you'll just release an alpha version if the final taking to long, or the source code. But, all that happening here is delays, delays and delays...
The Launcher looks fake, I can make one using VB in just 30 mins. I laughed on the sending of packets(?) and the smooth loading which is very FAKE (lol you lagged in the game, but how did you send packets that fast? and the emu loading was very noticable, it loads 1bar per second, you probably made the timer go long when it reaches the end.) The taskbar is on the top or left so thats why the mouse moved to the upper left. The Gameplay is made in BNET and the user had shitty computer and connection.
Those people only want KEYS (like donations) to SELL.
Indeed, the instant send was funny. :D
Quote from: Organized_Chaos on April 16, 2010, 08:35:27 AM
Quote from: SIL3NT-DE4TH on April 16, 2010, 07:04:12 AM
Are u calling the Code Gen Team's Fake?..
His First Video Relase Shows The Other part of the program. Sending Packets. Ect. This Video as he promised in the 2nd video he would show gameplay....
If you go to there site when its up. you can see how far down the Tech Tree they are. They dont have all units/ Upgrades. and they prob dont have chat working.
Between the First and 2nd video they relased. i would say that these people are not fake. if they were. they would not still be working on it and when there site went down the first time they would of not come back if all they wanted were keys...
Are you serious man? lol. A retarded monkey could spot this as a fake.
Why didn't the players chat with each other?!!?
Why did he have to click something off screen after clicking "launch" on the supposed emulator?
Why not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
If this is what you consider proof, you would probably believe ANYTHING.
Sorry but there is a AI that does do that. I am currelty using it when i get bored. + that shitty little army, sorry but no player good or bad would have an army that small.
The video has multiple problems, the biggest being that it supposedly launches directly into the game. When does the other client connect? Why would client #1 choose races and names of all players? This is just plain retarded.
Quote from: Battlenoob74 on April 16, 2010, 10:05:48 PM
Quote from: Organized_Chaos on April 16, 2010, 08:35:27 AM
Quote from: SIL3NT-DE4TH on April 16, 2010, 07:04:12 AM
Are u calling the Code Gen Team's Fake?..
His First Video Relase Shows The Other part of the program. Sending Packets. Ect. This Video as he promised in the 2nd video he would show gameplay....
If you go to there site when its up. you can see how far down the Tech Tree they are. They dont have all units/ Upgrades. and they prob dont have chat working.
Between the First and 2nd video they relased. i would say that these people are not fake. if they were. they would not still be working on it and when there site went down the first time they would of not come back if all they wanted were keys...
Are you serious man? lol. A retarded monkey could spot this as a fake.
Why didn't the players chat with each other?!!?
Why did he have to click something off screen after clicking "launch" on the supposed emulator?
Why not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
If this is what you consider proof, you would probably believe ANYTHING.
Sorry but there is a AI that does do that. I am currelty using it when i get bored. + that shitty little army, sorry but no player good or bad would have an army that small.
The video is obviously fake :bangshead:
If you cannot understand why, here is a basic appeal to logic:
They have a whole team of starcraft 2 emulator developers, but they can only find one that knows how to play. That's like having an army, but only one guy knows how to shoot his gun. Impossible.
The GUI is very simple to make and the video didn't show any proof.
I hate to say it, but it did look kinda fake... :'(
Why is everyone categorizing Code-Gen's work as a server emulator? It doesn't emulate a Battle.net game, they've reverse enginereed the network gameplay and decrypted each of the packets. The point isn't to emulate a Battle.net server, like other teams are doing, but rather get a network game with something as simple as the video showed.
QuoteThey have a whole team of starcraft 2 emulator developers, but they can only find one that knows how to play. That's like having an army, but only one guy knows how to shoot his gun. Impossible.
That has nothing to do with the skill of being a hacker/programmer. Do you think some of the most famous warez groups even care about playing the game? It's a challenge, just look at the latest Ubisoft's DRM Cracking. Also, you can't guarantee such a smooth gameplay in a video like you'd expect from a pro. They said the game was pretty unstable by now, so maybe they just avoided doing much stuff at the same time fearing that it could get overloaded and crash, hence, cutting the video by half. :P
Quote
When does the other client connect? Why would client #1 choose races and names of all players? This is just plain retarded.
Maybe because the client application hasn't been coded fully, and they just did a quick hack to get something playable. Everyone was bugging these guys for a gameplay video for weeks, don't complain if it doesn't appear finished yet.
QuoteI laughed on the sending of packets(?) and the smooth loading which is very FAKE
If you didn't notice, the graphical quality of the game was very reduced. Maybe just to get some better FPS, better synchronization, and to record the game smoothly. Of course you can expect the game to load fast if you reduce the details of the game.
QuoteEither way, there are many ways to prove it's a real emu...and I saw nothing to prove it. The biggest red flag remains to be the fact that he had to move the cursor off screen after clicking "Launch Starcraft II". Clicking that button on the supposed emu clearly did nothing.
I don't really see the point in considering this is fake when they have to run an external game. After all, look at one of those server emulators by some chinese folk. Their emulator doesn't have to launch Starcraft II itself, it injects in memory when the game is loaded. Just like the Code-Gen folk explained.
QuoteWhy not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
I think the Code-Gen team works over the Internet, not via a LAN connection. Maybe that's the reason they couldn't record it. Still, I think they should've given some more proof.
Quote from: DarioSamo on April 18, 2010, 08:12:43 AM
Why is everyone categorizing Code-Gen's work as a server emulator? It doesn't emulate a Battle.net game, they've reverse enginereed the network gameplay and decrypted each of the packets. The point isn't to emulate a Battle.net server, like other teams are doing, but rather get a network game with something as simple as the video showed.
QuoteThey have a whole team of starcraft 2 emulator developers, but they can only find one that knows how to play. That's like having an army, but only one guy knows how to shoot his gun. Impossible.
That has nothing to do with the skill of being a hacker/programmer. Do you think some of the most famous warez groups even care about playing the game? It's a challenge, just look at the latest Ubisoft's DRM Cracking. Also, you can't guarantee such a smooth gameplay in a video like you'd expect from a pro. They said the game was pretty unstable by now, so maybe they just avoided doing much stuff at the same time fearing that it could get overloaded and crash, hence, cutting the video by half. :P
Quote
When does the other client connect? Why would client #1 choose races and names of all players? This is just plain retarded.
Maybe because the client application hasn't been coded fully, and they just did a quick hack to get something playable. Everyone was bugging these guys for a gameplay video for weeks, don't complain if it doesn't appear finished yet.
QuoteI laughed on the sending of packets(?) and the smooth loading which is very FAKE
If you didn't notice, the graphical quality of the game was very reduced. Maybe just to get some better FPS, better synchronization, and to record the game smoothly. Of course you can expect the game to load fast if you reduce the details of the game.
QuoteEither way, there are many ways to prove it's a real emu...and I saw nothing to prove it. The biggest red flag remains to be the fact that he had to move the cursor off screen after clicking "Launch Starcraft II". Clicking that button on the supposed emu clearly did nothing.
I don't really see the point in considering this is fake when they have to run an external game. After all, look at one of those server emulators by some chinese folk. Their emulator doesn't have to launch Starcraft II itself, it injects in memory when the game is loaded. Just like the Code-Gen folk explained.
QuoteWhy not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
I think the Code-Gen team works over the Internet, not via a LAN connection. Maybe that's the reason they couldn't record it. Still, I think they should've given some more proof.
clueless sheep, did you donate a cdkey now you must defend your stupidity?
Quote from: DarioSamo on April 18, 2010, 08:12:43 AM
Why is everyone categorizing Code-Gen's work as a server emulator? It doesn't emulate a Battle.net game, they've reverse enginereed the network gameplay and decrypted each of the packets. The point isn't to emulate a Battle.net server, like other teams are doing, but rather get a network game with something as simple as the video showed.
QuoteThey have a whole team of starcraft 2 emulator developers, but they can only find one that knows how to play. That's like having an army, but only one guy knows how to shoot his gun. Impossible.
That has nothing to do with the skill of being a hacker/programmer. Do you think some of the most famous warez groups even care about playing the game? It's a challenge, just look at the latest Ubisoft's DRM Cracking. Also, you can't guarantee such a smooth gameplay in a video like you'd expect from a pro. They said the game was pretty unstable by now, so maybe they just avoided doing much stuff at the same time fearing that it could get overloaded and crash, hence, cutting the video by half. :P
Quote
When does the other client connect? Why would client #1 choose races and names of all players? This is just plain retarded.
Maybe because the client application hasn't been coded fully, and they just did a quick hack to get something playable. Everyone was bugging these guys for a gameplay video for weeks, don't complain if it doesn't appear finished yet.
QuoteI laughed on the sending of packets(?) and the smooth loading which is very FAKE
If you didn't notice, the graphical quality of the game was very reduced. Maybe just to get some better FPS, better synchronization, and to record the game smoothly. Of course you can expect the game to load fast if you reduce the details of the game.
QuoteEither way, there are many ways to prove it's a real emu...and I saw nothing to prove it. The biggest red flag remains to be the fact that he had to move the cursor off screen after clicking "Launch Starcraft II". Clicking that button on the supposed emu clearly did nothing.
I don't really see the point in considering this is fake when they have to run an external game. After all, look at one of those server emulators by some chinese folk. Their emulator doesn't have to launch Starcraft II itself, it injects in memory when the game is loaded. Just like the Code-Gen folk explained.
QuoteWhy not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
I think the Code-Gen team works over the Internet, not via a LAN connection. Maybe that's the reason they couldn't record it. Still, I think they should've given some more proof.
Not asking for a pro player, I'm just asking for somebody that can show basic human intellectual and ability.
Even if they work over the internet, a million times more convincing of a video would be one of a guy with 2 PC's side by side, just moving units and stuff and showing a reaction on another PC... one person could do that! :ticked:
Sheep shouldn't stray from the herd, a wolf might get you! :fight:
Final qusetion:
Is there now any dev team working on starcraft 2 online/emulator/lan crack?
Quoteclueless sheep, did you donate a cdkey now you must defend your stupidity?
Nope. I wouldn't be looking after their work if I had a CD key in the first place. I'm just pointing out how idiotic some of them "wahh, it's a fake" arguments are here. Want to nitpick every single detail assuming it's fake? I can play the same game too saying it might be true. Is it worth my time and yours? Surely not.
At least I'm not such an idiot to quote a long post to above me to say only a one-liner.
QuoteNot asking for a pro player, I'm just asking for somebody that can show basic human intellectual and ability.
Even if they work over the internet, a million times more convincing of a video would be one of a guy with 2 PC's side by side, just moving units and stuff and showing a reaction on another PC... one person could do that!
Fair enough. I would have been more happy to see some units strolling around each other.
Another case to consider is the case that the person who recorded it might not have 2 computers. And even if he had, maybe one of them isn't able to handle Starcraft 2 at a good framerate.
QuoteSheep shouldn't stray from the herd, a wolf might get you! :fight:
Show it to me. Give me one good, well-worded argument that the video is a fake, and I'll change my mind. Nobody has been capable of doing that so far.
Quote from: DarioSamo on April 18, 2010, 02:12:34 PM
Quoteclueless sheep, did you donate a cdkey now you must defend your stupidity?
Nope. I wouldn't be looking after their work if I had a CD key in the first place. I'm just pointing out how idiotic some of them "wahh, it's a fake" arguments are here. Want to nitpick every single detail assuming it's fake? I can play the same game too saying it might be true. Is it worth my time and yours? Surely not.
At least I'm not such an idiot to quote a long post to above me to say only a one-liner.
QuoteNot asking for a pro player, I'm just asking for somebody that can show basic human intellectual and ability.
Even if they work over the internet, a million times more convincing of a video would be one of a guy with 2 PC's side by side, just moving units and stuff and showing a reaction on another PC... one person could do that!
Fair enough. I would have been more happy to see some units strolling around each other.
Another case to consider is the case that the person who recorded it might not have 2 computers. And even if he had, maybe one of them isn't able to handle Starcraft 2 at a good framerate.
QuoteSheep shouldn't stray from the herd, a wolf might get you! :fight:
Show it to me. Give me one good, well-worded argument that the video is a fake, and I'll change my mind. Nobody has been capable of doing that so far.
I already did.. you just keep
agreeing then making up a excuse that makes little to no sense, or you simply ignore it. :bangshead: You will refuse to change your mind even though evidence points towards the truth.
I would hate to have you on a court room jury, you are now continuing for the sake of argument whilst ignoring every argument placed in opposition to your belief.
Quote from: Abe on April 18, 2010, 02:07:31 PM
Final qusetion:
Is there now any dev team working on starcraft 2 online/emulator/lan crack?
Yes, there is...and yes they are open source..and yes, they update source regularly.
As far as validity of Code-Gens video, this subject has been beaten to the ground. Verdict: Fake
Why people try to hold onto hope that it isn't is a fascinating psychological phenomenon to witness.
Something else weird about the video is that when it's showing the launcher it's obviously not his full screen (why would he do that?) but then also once it launches the game it suddenly all fits perfectly on screen without a flinch. Riddle me that, Batman.
I play Sc2 in windowed mode so i can change my music.
Also, the video could be fake, but I mean, the people saying "FAKE" are wasting their time cause nobody cares and furthermore you have no concrete proof that it is indeed fake. While funny, the idiots who donated their keys do deserve this to be fake, but anything can be cracked/created with enough time/resourcefulness; that being said, screaming fake just makes you look like an idiot
Quote from: Rain[sun] on April 18, 2010, 08:04:39 PM
I play Sc2 in windowed mode so i can change my music.
Also, the video could be fake, but I mean, the people saying "FAKE" are wasting their time cause nobody cares and furthermore you have no concrete proof that it is indeed fake. While funny, the idiots who donated their keys do deserve this to be fake, but anything can be cracked/created with enough time/resourcefulness; that being said, screaming fake just makes you look like an idiot
lmao
No, screaming real just makes you look like an idiot.
Very few have just said fake, evidence has been presented and the other side just ignores it, they are the ones who look like idiots.
Now I know who the people are that get duped into those stupid infomercial products.
Do you happen to want a slap-chop?
Quote from: DarioSamo on April 18, 2010, 08:12:43 AM
Why is everyone categorizing Code-Gen's work as a server emulator? It doesn't emulate a Battle.net game, they've reverse enginereed the network gameplay and decrypted each of the packets. The point isn't to emulate a Battle.net server, like other teams are doing, but rather get a network game with something as simple as the video showed.
QuoteThey have a whole team of starcraft 2 emulator developers, but they can only find one that knows how to play. That's like having an army, but only one guy knows how to shoot his gun. Impossible.
That has nothing to do with the skill of being a hacker/programmer. Do you think some of the most famous warez groups even care about playing the game? It's a challenge, just look at the latest Ubisoft's DRM Cracking. Also, you can't guarantee such a smooth gameplay in a video like you'd expect from a pro. They said the game was pretty unstable by now, so maybe they just avoided doing much stuff at the same time fearing that it could get overloaded and crash, hence, cutting the video by half. :P
Quote
When does the other client connect? Why would client #1 choose races and names of all players? This is just plain retarded.
Maybe because the client application hasn't been coded fully, and they just did a quick hack to get something playable. Everyone was bugging these guys for a gameplay video for weeks, don't complain if it doesn't appear finished yet.
QuoteI laughed on the sending of packets(?) and the smooth loading which is very FAKE
If you didn't notice, the graphical quality of the game was very reduced. Maybe just to get some better FPS, better synchronization, and to record the game smoothly. Of course you can expect the game to load fast if you reduce the details of the game.
QuoteEither way, there are many ways to prove it's a real emu...and I saw nothing to prove it. The biggest red flag remains to be the fact that he had to move the cursor off screen after clicking "Launch Starcraft II". Clicking that button on the supposed emu clearly did nothing.
I don't really see the point in considering this is fake when they have to run an external game. After all, look at one of those server emulators by some chinese folk. Their emulator doesn't have to launch Starcraft II itself, it injects in memory when the game is loaded. Just like the Code-Gen folk explained.
QuoteWhy not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
I think the Code-Gen team works over the Internet, not via a LAN connection. Maybe that's the reason they couldn't record it. Still, I think they should've given some more proof.
packets does not have any relation to game graphics/details. :bangshead: :ticked:
the loading that i say is that on the EMU.
Quote-Why didn't the players chat with each other?!!?
-Why did he have to click something off screen after clicking "launch" on the supposed emulator?
-Why not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?
-The video has multiple problems, the biggest being that it supposedly launches directly into the game. When does the other client connect? Why would client #1 choose races and names of all players? This is just plain retarded.
-They have a whole team of starcraft 2 emulator developers, but they can only find one that knows how to play. That's like having an army, but only one guy knows how to shoot his gun. Impossible.
-Not asking for a pro player, I'm just asking for somebody that can show basic human intellectual and ability.
-Even if they work over the internet, a million times more convincing of a video would be one of a guy with 2 PC's side by side, just moving units and stuff and showing a reaction on another PC... one person could do that
That's all the "proof" i've seen supplied that supports the fake theory. If you need me to explain how idiotic those posts sound, then continue reading.
"Why didn't the players chat with each other?!!?" .... you can chat on cracked version, on BNet, it would prove nothing.
"Why not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?" So we're assuming now, that they have 2 computers side by side? Let's also assume they have 9 arms and 2 heads.
"-The video has multiple problems, the biggest being that it supposedly launches directly into the game. When does the other client connect? Why would client #1 choose races and names of all players? This is just plain retarded." They don't need it to function like bnet 2.0, furthermore the way they make it function doesn't need to cater to how you feel it does; choosing races is probably peanuts in relation to the work needed to make all the actions function properly
"-They have a whole team of starcraft 2 emulator developers, but they can only find one that knows how to play. That's like having an army, but only one guy knows how to shoot his gun. Impossible. " ....what the fuck are you on kid? Why does everyone assume knowing how to play SC is common sense? If you haven't played it, you haven't played it. If you are busy trying to speak, do other shit, and whatever else, you clearly dont need to try.
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-Not asking for a pro player, I'm just asking for somebody that can show basic human intellectual and ability." I ask the same thing for people who post here, and yet retards like you constantly show up. Guess we all suffer from the same hopes :(
Nuff said. Oh and I have a beta key, I just enjoy reading the shit people spew over the internet.
@ Rain[sun]
You are on the very same level of 'childishness' as him, maybe even lower. Mocking him in such a way is not as far as you think from pure stupidity. Why do you bother replaying to such statement when you even consider it pointless? Finishing with "Nuff said", well... you should consider not saying anything else at all! Good job figuring it out!
The point is the video doesn't state anything. It can easily be done from any of us, it doesn't contain any proof of being real and isn't that its purpose?
Look at the other team. Open source, clear development steps, easy to see progress.
Look at this team. "Bla-bla" nonsense, video that doesn't show or proof anything, just a regular video with no purpose but to raise questions. What to ask yourself when you see this? If they want all this secrecy and mystery, fine. I don't mind them but I don't support them. If they want to be clear and actually show us SOMETHING worth it waiting, I am with then.
Before that, I am full of doubts and skepticism.
But, Rain[sun], your reaction is childish.
since when and why do you all care about this?
are you a part of a bnet emu team?
- then get in contact with them and you will see if they have the code or not
if not
- then just stay out of this because you won't do anything good with your untrust ...
there is no point in doing a video that has 2 players playing a bnet emu game because .. you will say its FAKE TOO!!!! (1st because bnet emu cant be the same as the blizzbnet and 2nd because these days anything can be faked)
So just stop it. Go and play with what you have and thank God you have that!
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::) You clearly missed the point. I'm not defending these foreign code-gen guys, its quite possible it IS fake, but I just get a good laugh from the poor attempts at saying it IS fake. If I don't reply, how will these people realize how stupid they sound? I'm just helping the world!
The point is the video doesn't state anything -- That is your point, not everyone elses. That is ONE point and I do agree with it, however I didn't argue that point. I argued the retarded points posted before it, if you had actually taken the time to read you might have noticed this.
i wasnt pointing at you .. i was speaking generaly for all ppl that wanna know something about any possible attempt of creating starcraft-bnet-emulation-progress-video(s) and in particularly for code-gen video.
you (general speaking) cant possibly know anything unless if you go there and look on the code. if you can't do that then just go and play dont waste your time with nonsense beliefs or dis-belifes
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have a good Life :)
@ringlas
I wouldn't criticize rain[sun] when your also making 'childish' arguments.
Like rain said, there is no real evidence that the video is fake as there is no evidence that video is real. Also, the point of the video was show how far they are with the emulation process and NOT to prove that they are legit. Code-gen does not care if people think they are fake or not. As for your question, why don't they open source it, I know that when I work on projects on my own, I do not like to lets others see what I'm doing until it is almost 100% done and its something I can amaze people with. Different people have different working styles.
I'm not trying to defend code-gen or anything. I'm just saying maybe you should consider all possibilities before shooting down others for sharing their opinions? What if code-gen turns out to be legit and they release an emu? You would look like a fool wouldn't you? I wouldn't mind hearing arguments as to why you guys think the video is fake or not, just don't shoot down other people's arguments just because you don't want to listen to them.
Also, if you must really know if code-gen is real or not, code-gen recently claimed that they gave a tip or two to the starcrack team. I would ask the developer of the starcrack project if this is true or not. If it is, then at least we know code-gen was working on something.
Quote from: maddoxx on April 16, 2010, 05:49:21 PM
Quote from: Organized_Chaos link=topic=1677.msg16074#msg16074 date=1271427107
Actually, after watching it again, it seems like maybe it WAS a game between two humans, only it was on the REAL Bnet. They likely conned a beta key out of some poor unwitting people, and with those accounts they're playing each other on bnet. The friend icon on the bottom right of the UI suggests it's likely on Bnet.
Either way, there are many ways to prove it's a real emu...and I saw nothing to prove it. The biggest red flag remains to be the fact that he had to move the cursor off screen after clicking "Launch Starcraft II". Clicking that button on the supposed emu clearly did nothing.
If it's fake why would they bother doing this video, why don't just they vanish? They already have the keys, and it's not like they're asking for more.
But more important, who the f*** cares? When the time comes will see if it's fake or not, until then I couldn't care less.
Umm, they HAVE vanished. lol Their site has been just a plain black screen for a long while now. Also, have you heard from anyone on the supposed "code-gen" team lately? No. The cat is out of the bag...they're fake, and now they're running away with their tails between their legs like the idiots they are.
It seems it was all just a hoax. Why do people spend their own valuable time to create elaborate hoaxes? There are plenty of reasons, one of which is simply to get attention. Ever heard of crop circles? Some of them are HUGE. Do you know how long it takes to make those? The people go through all that trouble, and then try to pass it off as something that was done by UFOs. It's all for attention... apparently some people never got hugged by their parents when they were young. Pathetic.
And I hate it when people say "who cares". Wtf? We ALL care... I don't know about you, but I
can't stand being lied to. People who create stupid ass hoaxes like this just for attention deserve to be banished from the internet to forever wallow offline, by themselves, in their own stupidity.
Duplicate post... pls delete.
Organized_Chaos <<<<<< The biggest!
That was a comment I totally agree with. The best by far.
To all those who say "care", etc... What are you doing in this forum then? What are you even writing in a thread called progress of emus? You are here for the very same reason as all of us. (If, of course, you are not a troll with which I believe you don't want to be entitled). Particularly epsiSlow who wants to play "smart staff" or what? If you want to keep your eyes shut and you don't care about progress of a potential emulator don't get here and tell me "don't waste your time with self disbelieves". It sounds stupid as you read it? Don't spend your time telling us bullshit? Is that equal enough? "They wanted to show progress not proof", you say. Progress in what? In how to make videos based on SC2? Clearly in my eyes a team of developers who actually work on something big could release a video which SHOWS CURRENT STAGE OF PROGRESS and when you see it, you say to yourself "ah, good, awesome job you guys are doing, too bad its going slow but I really think you are into something, etc..." Not to mention this is a forum full of PROGRAMMERS, even tiny little bit of info could be enough to make us happy. And this is not the case. I see a SC2 video. Not a progress of an emu. In my eyes they cry for attention, they are a bunch of retards who thought that could make something, got an idea or two and then forgot themselves and claimed lies.
I hope to be proven wrong. I still won't use their emu, but I desire to be proven wrong and they turn out to be a bunch of unprofessional guys who don't know how to promote their project, however, ending up with a released project.
@Rain - I don't want to start a flame war or something with you. It seems that you agree with me and yet you want to prove me wrong in some way. Some of the points this guy said are good. Some of them are very bad. However, moreover his post clearly states, this video ain't nothing but rubbish. It could have been made better in a thousands of ways. This either says absolute lack of professionalism, or absolute fake. Either way it doesn't worth. (For the part showing the world, etc, I agree! Hah, you sound like an old friend of mine, like you've used the same words ;D )
Post written, cup of coffee drank, satisfied with the time lost, going back to work.
>:( lmao :fight:
Quote from: Rain[sun] on April 19, 2010, 01:44:10 AM"Why not shoot a video with a hand held camera showing two computers beside each other, with two humans playing each other?" So we're assuming now, that they have 2 computers side by side? Let's also assume they have 9 arms and 2 heads.
Hmm... I do not know a single person with just one computer in their house hold. It is not that great of a request.
Again a whole team of devs and....
Quote from: Rain[sun] on April 19, 2010, 01:44:10 AM"-The video has multiple problems, the biggest being that it supposedly launches directly into the game. When does the other client connect? Why would client #1 choose races and names of all players? This is just plain retarded." They don't need it to function like bnet 2.0, furthermore the way they make it function doesn't need to cater to how you feel it does; choosing races is probably peanuts in relation to the work needed to make all the actions function properly
You totally ignored the part where he faked clicking the button. They obviously faked that part, there is obvious proof that button was fake.
Quote from: Rain[sun] on April 19, 2010, 01:44:10 AM"-They have a whole team of starcraft 2 emulator developers, but they can only find one that knows how to play. That's like having an army, but only one guy knows how to shoot his gun. Impossible. " ....what the fuck are you on kid? Why does everyone assume knowing how to play SC is common sense? If you haven't played it, you haven't played it. If you are busy trying to speak, do other shit, and whatever else, you clearly dont need to try.
Again it is a whole damn team working for free and they only have one person.... common sense that on a team putting in hours of work there is going to be a few guys who know what they are working for.
Judging by that statement you made with obvious disregard for common sense it is tough to discern what you are on... some hard shit though... Rock?
Quote from: Rain[sun] on April 19, 2010, 01:44:10 AM"-Not asking for a pro player, I'm just asking for somebody that can show basic human intellectual and ability."
I ask the same thing for people who post here, and yet retards like you constantly show up. Guess we all suffer from the same hopes :(
Not an argument, but if you want to talk shit we can do that too.
Quote from: Rain[sun] on April 19, 2010, 01:44:10 AMNuff said. Oh and I have a beta key, I just enjoy reading the shit people spew over the internet.
Nice attempt to cause jealousy, I also have a beta key, but I would like to see this project completed, I am not here to troll, as you have stated that you obviously are.
You are making up illogical arguments, and if you do believe that what you are typing is logical then i do genuinely feel sorry for you.
Now explain the other things you purposely skipped and fix your illogical explanations of what you have there. Then maybe when you reply nobody will laugh at your vigorous attempt to get too much out of your single brain cell.
nuff s.... wait, I don't want to end my post with some gay ass line like that.
Now, lets get back to making a emu, this video is fake.
Well, since I've decided to don't waste my time anymore here because of those "You're a close-minded, I can't convince you"(just say you're lazy FFS), I'll make my leave with one epic comic from xkcd. Proving and trying to admit why most of us come to snap you out of your craziness(Rain did, but he was kind of rude at some points).
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
Quote from: DarioSamo on April 19, 2010, 07:13:24 PM
Well, since I've decided to don't waste my time anymore here because of those "You're a close-minded, I can't convince you"(just say you're lazy FFS), I'll make my leave with one epic comic from xkcd. Proving and trying to admit why most of us come to snap you out of your craziness(Rain did, but he was kind of rude at some points).
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
Yup, sometimes you just gotta say" Bye"..... so "Bye"
Haha love that picture. I don't go on forums so this is really the first time ive seen idiots on the internet, but word on the street is they are pretty popular. Unforunately for everyone else, I'm hopped up on coffee trying to finish a project for psych and this is quite a nice break from that so here's my last response.
"Hmm... I do not know a single person with just one computer in their house hold. It is not that great of a request. Again a whole team of devs and...." Personal attacks are warranted at this point, because you're taking into account your personal experiences and assuming everyones are the same. I have 1 computer in my house. Many of my friends do too. Majority that I know of actually only have 1.
I didnt watch the video cause frankly i dont give a fuck about it, I watched the first vid and it made my ears bleed trying to understand what he was saying. So I skipped the parts I can't comment on. Would you rather me make comments on things I have no knowledge on? Redundant I'd say.
"Again it is a whole damn team working for free and they only have one person.... common sense that on a team putting in hours of work there is going to be a few guys who know what they are working for."
Yet again, you're assuming they HAVE to be part of the video. Even if its real, why would they need to take part in it? They have better things to do presumably, like i dunno, develop the product?
It's funny when people miss the mark of a sarcastic comment and assume it for personal attacks. Nothing I posted was illogical, quite the opposite actually. Other than the obvious sarcastic comments I made, I sincerely hope you understood what I said. "Making up illogical arguments" is i guess your interpretation of trying to understand where idiotic comments are coming from. To say my argument is illogical is to say the points im arguing are illogical, since all I ever said was people keep assuming that Code-gen does this and code-gen should do that.
If it's "illogical" to say not everyone has 2 computers, not everyone needs to be apart of the video to please angry, skeptical geeks, and that common sense clearly doesn't have the definition you think it does, what else can i say? Not every team member was apart of the video obviously. Fuck, maybe hes the only guy who speaks english, maybe they didnt see the need for a video and he did, how the fuck do you know the circumstances?
Ill say adios cause you seem to be getting fairly defensive, meaning there's a good chance you're sharing the same views as the quotes I brought up.
Take it easy to the rest of you sane folk!
you've got me wrong. What i say is
fuck them until they give me the bnet emulator to test it or play it, i dont give a shit on their progress-fake-or-non-fake-videos!hell yeah! the pic that respond also to this guy:
Quote from: Organized_Chaos link=topic=1677.msg16407#msg16407 date=1271687862
And I hate it when people say "who cares". Wtf? We ALL care... I don't know about you, but I can't stand being lied to. People who create stupid ass hoaxes like this just for attention deserve to be banished from the internet to forever wallow offline, by themselves, in their own stupidity.
tx for bolding those words there.
i care about things that are palpable i care about a bnet emu but i dont give attention to possible fakers until i have the prove to consider them otherwise.
so my principle : everyone is a bofooney util proven otherwise.
my smart staff is better then your rage talk because you didnt got my point.
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"Live Long and Prosper" :)
Quote from: epsiSlow on April 20, 2010, 06:23:45 AM
my smart staff is better then your rage talk because you didnt got my point.
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"Live Long and Prosper" :)
True. I apologize now that I see you are on the path of righteousness. ;)
Quote from: Rain[sun] on April 20, 2010, 01:46:57 AM
I didnt watch the video cause frankly i dont give a fuck about it, I watched the first vid and it made my ears bleed trying to understand what he was saying. So I skipped the parts I can't comment on. Would you rather me make comments on things I have no knowledge on? Redundant I'd say.
"Again it is a whole damn team working for free and they only have one person.... common sense that on a team putting in hours of work there is going to be a few guys who know what they are working for."
Yet again, you're assuming they HAVE to be part of the video. Even if its real, why would they need to take part in it? They have better things to do presumably, like i dunno, develop the product?
It's funny when people miss the mark of a sarcastic comment and assume it for personal attacks. Nothing I posted was illogical, quite the opposite actually. Other than the obvious sarcastic comments I made, I sincerely hope you understood what I said. "Making up illogical arguments" is i guess your interpretation of trying to understand where idiotic comments are coming from. To say my argument is illogical is to say the points im arguing are illogical, since all I ever said was people keep assuming that Code-gen does this and code-gen should do that.
If it's "illogical" to say not everyone has 2 computers, not everyone needs to be apart of the video to please angry, skeptical geeks, and that common sense clearly doesn't have the definition you think it does, what else can i say? Not every team member was apart of the video obviously. Fuck, maybe hes the only guy who speaks english, maybe they didnt see the need for a video and he did, how the fuck do you know the circumstances?
Ill say adios cause you seem to be getting fairly defensive, meaning there's a good chance you're sharing the same views as the quotes I brought up.
Take it easy to the rest of you sane folk!
Code-gen never had a first vid and since you didn't watch the second you obviously have no clue what you are even arguing about.
Speaking english had nothing to do with this, there was no narration or text comments except the titles.
There is no point in arguing this if you dont even know what you are talking about.
I'm done here, you will just keep making excuses and basing them on your "circumstances."
hey, I gots a suggestion. How about STFU! I come into these forums to see if I can find interesting discussions to give my two cents into and I find this redundant crap saying the same things over and over again! Why are u guys so bent on proving the other wrong anyways?
Quote from: jyim89 on April 20, 2010, 04:56:32 PM
hey, I gots a suggestion. How about STFU! I come into these forums to see if I can find interesting discussions to give my two cents into and I find this redundant crap saying the same things over and over again! Why are u guys so bent on proving the other wrong anyways?
I told you I'm done... I have proved him wrong and he has kept makign things up, I will not reply to any more of his posts.
It is the law of the internets... if you post your 2 cents and somebody is confident in the opposing view they will pick yours apart.
But, anyways
its over.
Poof