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Title: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: wayman on May 27, 2010, 09:40:06 AM
Hi, first of all i'd like to thanks ptanhkhoa (http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/../profile/?u=3649)  for a great AI. I've been trying to beat Terran using zerg but never though. Anyone who successfully beat Terran using zerg please give me some advice or posting replay would be great.

Cheers
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: sopen55 on May 27, 2010, 10:11:35 AM
.. hehe i have. try this. im not so certain if my build order is correct.

10 overlord
13 pool
14 hatch
make a drone so the count is 14
make 2 lings for 16
18queen
18extractor
18overlord
18hatch (i think, if minerals reach 200+)
make 3:1 ratio of lings:drones
after extractor is done, put 3 drones in it
first 100 gas and 100minerals goes to ling speed.
2nd 100gas goes to lair. then continue making lings and drones for expansion. after the lair make hydras or roaches, depending if the ai goes for banshees or tanks respectively.
at 8-10min mark, try to attack
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: wayman on May 27, 2010, 10:26:47 AM
thz a the advice, will try'em.
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: wayman on May 29, 2010, 11:54:13 AM
tried it, not work out for me :/ please post a replay for me to have a look. Cheers
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: sopen55 on May 30, 2010, 05:28:09 AM
i cant post a replay cause im using Starcraft II Launcher by Zoxc. and i dont think replays work if the games are against ai mods
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: wayman on May 30, 2010, 08:42:24 AM
I am able to play replay my own game against AI using SCALLin1 launcher. Please give me a try.
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: miguelgalit on May 30, 2010, 08:57:51 AM
photon rush... for protoss and terrans only  ::)
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: darka on May 31, 2010, 02:43:58 PM
Baneling Rush is a solution, otherwise BroodLord or Infestor to counter M&M
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: OboNet on May 31, 2010, 02:57:19 PM
i play a game to save you a replay.
I can crush AI in any way, You just need to chose very well when and where to attack.
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: sopen55 on June 01, 2010, 01:57:48 AM
im not sure if i won on blistering sands but in scrap station i did. the   terran ai used banshee rush.. ow and the map i used was the pre-patch 9   scrap station.
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: Amberdilis on June 01, 2010, 03:47:36 AM
Quote from: miguelgalit on May 30, 2010, 08:57:51 AM
photon rush... for protoss and terrans only  ::)
haha!! you're just so addicted to photon cannon rushes now arent you? Some guy tried that on me and he almost won except I had tanks so that won't work every time  :P :P


srsly tho @op, it's all about scouting and countering. 90% of the games I lose are ALWAYS due to me being ignorant to what my opponent was doing.
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: x1zk0 on June 01, 2010, 05:37:50 AM
Quote from: miguelgalit on May 30, 2010, 08:57:51 AM
photon rush... for protoss and terrans only  ::)

cannon rush powa!  :thumbsup: my speciality  :)
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: sopen55 on June 01, 2010, 06:18:42 AM
ow yeah, i forgot. your zerg right?? use your overlord to scout!!!
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: wayman on June 01, 2010, 10:08:39 PM
thanks a lot guys, very appreciated. I need a lot more practice on Zerg, try to understand the eco system and expansion as it's not the same as Terran and Protoss.
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: miguelgalit on June 13, 2010, 04:26:00 AM
Quote from: Amberdilis on June 01, 2010, 03:47:36 AM
Quote from: miguelgalit on May 30, 2010, 08:57:51 AM
photon rush... for protoss and terrans only  ::)
haha!! you're just so addicted to photon cannon rushes now arent you? Some guy tried that on me and he almost won except I had tanks so that won't work every time  :P :P


srsly tho @op, it's all about scouting and countering. 90% of the games I lose are ALWAYS due to me being ignorant to what my opponent was doing.

LOL!
Title: Re: How to beat GreenTea AI 0.46 - Zerg vs computer Terran
Post by: King_Yoshi on July 07, 2010, 12:34:53 PM
This is and easy one.. 7 pool ling rush just about wins ,e the game every time against ai, except "cheating ai".

1. Build order is simple.
2. Get 7 dornes out
3. wait until you get 200 min and build spawning pool
4. build 1 drone so you have 7 again
5. wait untill spawning pool is done, and immediately build lings until your supply is capped
6. Immediately send them at opponent
7. (VERY IMPORTANT) Micro them properly! Don't just run them into the opponents base. Harass them a bit. Try keeping the lings alive as long as possible! Also keep trying to destroy the structures that can produce units that will be able to attack your lings. Ex. If its toss destroy the pylon powering their stargate. If its terran, destroy their barracks.
At the same time harass and destroy thier workers, but DO NOT, jsut run the lings straight into the worker line. That will get your lings killed very quickly
8. While attacking with your lings, quickly switch back to your base and pump out more lings.
An easy way of doing this is to macro your base to F2 and your lings to F1, so you can switch between them while still microing your lings.
9. Keep pumping out lings and sending them..
10. If for some reason none of your lings died, you should be supply capped, so build an overlord, then continue to keep pumping lings.
11. If your opponent is not dead by now you A. Did something wrong or B. They managed to outmicro you and hold off your attack

If A. Congratulations you won the game
If B. Immediately stop sending lings, if you feel that the lings just keep getting killed with no affect, and try to work your way into another build. (I would suggest mass pumping workers for a bit.)

Hope this helps you somewhat. :)

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